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This is Ron's Final Tribal Council Thread.

All other Jurors should remain in their own threads. Final 3, remember... this is not for you to address each other, but to talk to Ron. In-fighting amongst the Final 3 should be reserved for the Live Final Tribal Council on Sunday.

Ron, you have until Saturday at 8c/9e to post your statements/questions to the Final 3. Remember not to take up too much of their time as they have 9 other jurors to get to. Please no listing or questions requiring novels for answers. You should post all of your statements/questions in your opening post in this thread. There is a live Final Council on Sunday where you will get to address everyone live about the statements they have made as well as ask follow ups.
 

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Hey y'all! Congrats on a well-played game and making it to the final 3. I'll admit I thought I was closer to some of you, but based on the opening statements I don't think most of you had much of an interest in forming a real connection of me and mostly used me as a disposable pawn. That said, this isn't about me so I won't ask you defend your relationship with me here and I am excited to get to know you all as real people once this game is over. I want you to focus on your games, and more importantly the perception of your game and the overall impact that you had specifically.

First question, and this one is for all of you. I am not an educator, but Ron Clark is. Playing this game I've learned a lot about myself, especially how I present myself and how I am perceived by others. It has taught me that I need to be more self aware, and also more aware of others' feelings/ perceptions/ realities. What did this game teach you about yourself and how has it impacted your real life behavior/ code of ethics?

Charlie: It could be argued that you were more of a goat than Gillian. You always went for the numbers and from my experience, never initiated a plan or threw out a name. Or at least, you never brought me into your plans and usually played dumb or let me play the villain. You claimed you played a social game in chats, but your opening statement paints you as a strategic maestro. The perception of the jury was that you never made any moves, so your opening statement feels - to borrow a phrase from Jeff - like a Scooby Doo reveal. Can you explain how and when you - specifically you - made proactive, strategic decisions that got you to the end of this game?

Gillian : You had a chaotic social game that rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, but it was mostly harmless and usually had me laughing my ass off. That said, sometimes our conversations and your gameplay felt like performance art and not sincere to who you are. We are all still not sure if you are really a grandmother. With a F3 made up of such a tight alliance based on loyalty and trust, do you think you played an honest game and what other personal traits makes you a deserving winner?

Michelle: I have no qualms about your gameplay, but I am curious to hear you talk about your closest relationship at this point in the game. If there was a Final 2 instead of a Final 3, and it was between Charlie and Gillian: who would you vote for as sole survivor and why? Why would the other person NOT deserve our vote?

Thank you all, and have a great weekend. It's been my pleasure to play alongside you.
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Ron wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:52:46 am Hey y'all! Congrats on a well-played game and making it to the final 3. I'll admit I thought I was closer to some of you, but based on the opening statements I don't think most of you had much of an interest in forming a real connection of me and mostly used me as a disposable pawn. That said, this isn't about me so I won't ask you defend your relationship with me here and I am excited to get to know you all as real people once this game is over. I want you to focus on your games, and more importantly the perception of your game and the overall impact that you had specifically.

First question, and this one is for all of you. I am not an educator, but Ron Clark is. Playing this game I've learned a lot about myself, especially how I present myself and how I am perceived by others. It has taught me that I need to be more self aware, and also more aware of others' feelings/ perceptions/ realities. What did this game teach you about yourself and how has it impacted your real life behavior/ code of ethics?
well it tought me that i am stronger than i think i am. i dont have much else to say on this matter as its just a game and i dont really use it to impact my rl behavior. except that i already know i hate lies and being lied to by pretty much everyone pisses me off. yess i lied about a couple votes but only when i had to or felt the need to.


Gillian : You had a chaotic social game that rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, but it was mostly harmless and usually had me laughing my ass off. That said, sometimes our conversations and your gameplay felt like performance art and not sincere to who you are. We are all still not sure if you are really a grandmother. With a F3 made up of such a tight alliance based on loyalty and trust, do you think you played an honest game and what other personal traits makes you a deserving winner?

chaotic social game? tf is this supposed to mean? who rf did i rub the the wrong way? well there was no performance art except our last little bit of convo when u called me bae then wife!! and that whole marriage thung happened but that was more u than me!!! i am very sincere and the fact u cant see that is dis heartening!!! i am a fun person and i am not someone and thats what i was trying to be here is fun nothing more!!! and no i aint a grandma!!! as i told u all i have 2 kids who are still pretty young and most people who asked about my kids ages know how old they are. shit reem knows all this!! my kids are 11 and 13 and both boys and if im a grandma u better take my kids cause imma prolly shoot em!!! i did play a pretty honest game!!! i lied only to those who i needed to which was usually the person being voted out or the other side who was voting with them. but not always as i did try to work with lauren on the eric vote and she lied to me more than i ever lied to her!!!! i had the f3 with michelle and charlie after both susie and reem were gone!!! I am who i say i am u get what u see!! i am not fake!!! i do not pretend to be someone i am not!!! if u dont like that then tata!!!! its ok if u dont like cause not everyone has good taste!!!!! but i had to overcome that "cheating" scandal" where noone else had to deal with anything of the sort!!! i dealt with a heartbreak that night and wanted to die literally and didnt even see that freaking shit till really late or the next morning and i was super pissed!! as i maintain i did not break any rules and i did not talk to multiple people about anything as i stated!!! but we will get into all that later!!! so yes overcoming the "goat" perception was another thing i had to do. so i planned to come in here and just lay low but it was not my intention to be seen as a goat!!! But i was no goat and i was trying to make moves and people just kept fucking that up, u included!!! Also i fight for what i think is right!!!! i do not sugarcoat shit!!! as i said im not a fake ass bitch!! i played this game the best i could and make connections and friendships and i fi feel like i made subtle moves as well that dont get talked about. like the atlasova jaq vote!! i put a bug in reems ear i wanted jaq out and that happened!!! did i go around telling everyone no but she was more connected at that point with her alliances. I am glad i made u laugh as i always try to make people laugh!! But i am who i am and u can take it or leave it but I played a pretty damn good game!!! So i deserve to win based on that!! :heart:

Thank you all, and have a great weekend. It's been my pleasure to play alongside you.
 

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one more thing I found an immunity idol and not everyone can say that found something!!!! and it was amongst the emojies where we all know gilly loves to be!!!! Gilly loves emojis :party: icon_Gizmo icon_argue
 

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Hi Ron! Thank you for the question. I want to start off by saying that you were absolutely a pawn to me at first, but at the merge this perception of you changed. I respect your game so much, and the way that you were able to maneuver yourself out of danger on multiple occasions was incredibly impressive. I think that had you made it to FTC, you would have had a landslide victory. Which is obviously why I needed to vote you off.

As to your question, if there was a final 2 and I was the final member of the jury, I would vote for Charlie to win. He played a good social game, as evidenced by never getting any votes (that I can remember). He also won three competitions in a row at a crucial time, leaving nothing up to chance for himself.

I don’t believe Gillian deserves to win, because people have been talking about taking her to the final 3 since before the swap even happened. It was my perception that she only started trying to assert herself in the game after Reem was voted out. Before then she would come onto the group chat, ask “Who should I vote for?” and then do as she was told. Finding an idol does not negate someone’s status as a goat, in my opinion. Furthermore, Gillian takes things in this game extremely personally, and isn’t willing to own up to her own lies and manipulations in the game. She has spent the last two days harassing and swearing at me over messenger, and I do not respect that from a potential game-winner.
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Ron wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:52:46 am Hey y'all! Congrats on a well-played game and making it to the final 3. I'll admit I thought I was closer to some of you, but based on the opening statements I don't think most of you had much of an interest in forming a real connection of me and mostly used me as a disposable pawn. That said, this isn't about me so I won't ask you defend your relationship with me here and I am excited to get to know you all as real people once this game is over. I want you to focus on your games, and more importantly the perception of your game and the overall impact that you had specifically.

First question, and this one is for all of you. I am not an educator, but Ron Clark is. Playing this game I've learned a lot about myself, especially how I present myself and how I am perceived by others. It has taught me that I need to be more self aware, and also more aware of others' feelings/ perceptions/ realities. What did this game teach you about yourself and how has it impacted your real life behavior/ code of ethics?

Charlie: It could be argued that you were more of a goat than Gillian. You always went for the numbers and from my experience, never initiated a plan or threw out a name. Or at least, you never brought me into your plans and usually played dumb or let me play the villain. You claimed you played a social game in chats, but your opening statement paints you as a strategic maestro. The perception of the jury was that you never made any moves, so your opening statement feels - to borrow a phrase from Jeff - like a Scooby Doo reveal. Can you explain how and when you - specifically you - made proactive, strategic decisions that got you to the end of this game?

Hey Ron. Appreciate the honest question.

I think the place that I am going to learn the most is honestly here at the finals. I'm learning already that I don't know everything. Mattygate was a move I firmly credited to Chris and Michelle being able to claim that move scares me a lot. I am here to listen and learn and I hope to win the game if I really do deserve it.

I played a stay under the radar at all costs game until the Devens vote but it never once stopped me from throwing out people's names. I dump lists of why everyone else left in the game other than the person I was talking to was a threat in this game and had the potential to go home. I did play dumb and I did let other people play the villian for moves and rumors that I was starting but those were proactive moves. And that didn't change the fact that I was the one starting those rumors and influencing the votes just because I managed to avoid getting the target onto me for them. Everytime I laid out a possible alliance that I knew to be fake, everytime I exposed what someone had said or altered it enough to make them the threat I wanted them to be, everytime I pretended to be upset or annoyed by something that I wasn't, those were all proactive moves.

I told truths and lies about what Wardog did and said on the OG Taraku tribe to the three girls. I told them he told me he was idol hunting which he never said to me that he was and that everyone had been saying that he was the biggest strategic threat. I made sure he was a bigger target than me and available for a potential blindside. I told lies to you and Marcus to make sure that the Wardog vote didn't get ruined and to keep you both more loyal to me than the girls. I actively talked up Matty and Reem's threat levels to anyone who would listen to make it seem like I might flip and create meat shields. I put in huge amounts of work convincing and insisting to insitigate the Devens vote and ensure I went to plan when the vote was going to go towards a person in the game that was hugely loyal to me. I made sure that every vote in the end game went in the order that left me with the people most loyal to me in the game and most unable to beat me in a challenge. You tried to talk me away from the votes and into others on numerous occasions as did Michelle and I would not budge because that boot order suited my game the best and got me here.

The social and strategic go hand and hand in this game. You can't influence others to go your way without having the social bonds which is something I think you learned in this game. You and others tried to influence the vote on many occasions in the same ways that I did through rumors and creating fear. But people didn't believe you. I was always hearing from others that you were spinning different plans than we were discussing that went against my agenda. The key to influencing a vote is finding the person who agrees with you first and then using that person and the next person to make it seem like the others who don't agree with your agenda have very little choice in the matter.

When you take genuine time to listen to people about their lives and give them support and comfort they listen to you when the time comes. And when the time came for Devens, Randy, Lauren, Chris, I made the final call and the people who didn't agree said ok if you really think so.

I admitted in the tribal council where I was the only person who answered the Scooby Doo question that everyone was waiting to do that and myself was included in that. But I think I was actually more like Scrappy Doo. Scrappy literally has scrappy in the name. He always brings the drama and yet they're still always surprised when he's behind the master scheme. I didn't sit out of the strategic questions at tribal. I openly admitted that I loved gossip and tea and spilling it. The things I said in tribal and on my votes were never apologies for the moves that I had made because I was happy with every person who went home that I voted for. People were calling me out for playing both sides. Randy called me out as the most strategic dramatically at the end of the challenge. My pitch is that if anyone is shocked that I am the man underneath the mask then they were not paying close enough attention.
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